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Extremely very confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I really did not make clear ... my poor In respond to spitfirebill: I added that point because when I had to discover a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go through each in every junkyard in South Jersey to locate one that had not been sludged up really badly.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're going to speak about a couple of concerns of these vans, however I I'm plainly not mosting likely to come out and claim one is better than the various other. So if that's what you're searching for, you'll have to wait. Mark: So what are some of the differences in between these two brand names? Bernie: Well, they're basically the exact same automobile.
They appear to be a little much more utilized in that area, however, you understand, those are several of the usages, but they're essentially the same group of vehicle. Mark: So, well, allow's begin with engines then. What concerns do you see in between these two lorries? Bernie: Yeah. So let's speak about engine and actually simply to specify that the design years, we're going to begin with 2000 and up, you know, I suggest, these vans have actually been around for a long time.
And, you understand, for a variation of a Chevy van has actually been around considering that, you know, around that time as well. So we're not going to get back right into, right into the earlier things. Since 2000, I suggest, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are far more prominent and I would not actually recommend a V6 engine.
So, you understand, Fords, and most of them include the Triton V8. There's a great deal of problems with these engines. In the earlier 2000 stimulate plugs with blow to these engines, since they really did not have sufficient threading in the ignition system, which created issues. And typically that would certainly take place when you may be in a 15 guest bus increasing a hillside with a load of individuals and all of an unexpected boom, an ignition system bulges and you're stranded.
If you're acquiring anything from probably 08 and newer, you're not going to have that kind of trigger plug concerns. Various other locations though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will leakage, they'll establish coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold normally you have to change the entire thing.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I have to state in their favour, due to the fact that I'm discussing troubles, it's a much more innovative engine. Overhead cam, so you're obtaining more power and performance out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is an easier style with push poles.
They're just actually respectable, durable, strong engines. You know, being a van, naturally, you recognize, doing any type of service on them is much more complex due to the fact that you have actually reached eliminate that cover and get involved in servicing in odd ways. Points like spark plugs last a horrible lengthy time, so they do not require to be changed really usually.
Mark: Can you buy these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a long time, like way back prior to the 2000 design year.
So, you understand, that's still offered. I would not recommend a diesel unless you're carrying extremely hefty loads. Diesels need to be worked. That's really the lower line with a diesel. If you're a say, I don't understand, I'm simply going to say a plumbing technician and you have actually obtained like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're hauling a trailer behind it, that would be an actually excellent use of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it appears like the diesels are, they seem to have less troubles in vans than they perform in the trucks. Probably because they aren't functioned so hard, however when things take place, they're really expensive to repair. We've got a great deal of videos and information regarding diesels, specifically the Fords.
You actually require to believe twice regarding obtaining a diesel in a van. That's my recommendation. Mark: Yeah, so in shape for function, make sure that you're suitable the engine that you're buying for the purpose that you're endeavouring to fulfill. Bernie: Yeah, specifically. And I will certainly state, Chevy is practically restricted to V8 engines, but Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is a monstrous gas guzzling engine.
If you're, and once more, we're simply speaking regarding kind of a directly, normal freight van right here. The diesel most definitely isn't the finest option. Look at your function, your usage, just how much weight you're carrying which'll aid you make the decision. Mark: What about the transmission and the remainder of the drive train? Bernie: They're practically equal.
Something that we have not discussed here is what type of van. These vans are, and it depends on what version, they're offered ever before from half load to one lot framework and really a few of the cutaway vans are really a lot more durable, like, you know, 450s and 550s for state the Fords.
However normally the drive trains, you recognize, I discover them to be virtually equal. Mark: So let's discuss steering and suspension. Exactly how do they contrast? Bernie: You know, I'm mosting likely to give the edge to Ford on this one. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little simpler.
There's much less steering link associated with a Chevy. So there are much less parts to wear. They do a sphere joints that wear. Do Chevy's, yet it seems, and the Chevy's most likely last a bit longer than the Fords, yet the, you know, the guiding link is a lot less complicated, so there's less components and less products to wear out.
The experience in a Ford is probably a little bit much more truck like however I do not recognize if you 'd actually ever truly discovered a difference between the two. It seems like their elements are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy.
For some reason, they appear to last for one brake task. And after that a lot of times we take the brakes off and say, Oh, the dust boots torn, therefore the caliper requires to be changed. So I assume on a Ford and you can expect to spend a bit more money on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to swerve back before the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had truly poor doors. I imply, the sliding doors were crap, you understand, actually terribly built. In fact, I would say that if you are also looking at something older, it appears like Chevy and GMC vans actually and their vehicles as a whole really took a leap ahead in top quality around the 2000 design year, because there was a whole lot of stuff where the brakes as an example would not last long at all.
But if we're looking at the 2000 more recent, I suggest, I 'd claim they're both possibly basically equivalent in quality, fit and finish, you recognize, some of the passenger vans, certainly we'll have better visits than the freight vans. I can not state that one of them stands out to me a bit even more than the various other.
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